stephanie: yeah, have you seen the picture of the president when he first heard about what happened at sandy hook. some of the details, it's the reality of stuff -- there was another detail i heard from the aurora shooting that the 911 dispatcher couldn't hear because there were so many gunshots. bill clinton yesterday. >> i grew up in a hunting culture, but this is nuts. >> stephanie: he says why does anyone need a 30-round clip for a gun. half of all of the mass killings in the u.s. have occurred since the assault weapon ban expired. half in all of the history of the country. so i hope gabby giffords and other people who stepped up after the newtown tragedy. half of all mass killings in the u.s. have occurred since the assault weapons ban expired. how do you explain that. >> feral elves. >> stephanie: yes, feral pigs clearly. the nra president yesterday after the meeting. >> the administration was able to check the box and say they talked to the representativives of firearm owners, and now they wanted to proceed with what they wanted to do. >> great. >> stephanie: anything they are talking